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July 07, 2006

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Kos seems to think the charges are overblown:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/7/7/11290/58796

As on any Kos post, the comments are hilarious.

Personally, I am no expert on what is plagerism, but it seems if you spewed tens of thousands of words of crap, chances are some of you phrasing would at least resemble that used by others. But, like I said, I am no expert - I would be curious how her book would compare to another random political screed in this regard.

Bryan:

Absolutely accurate, you are no expert but it seems you like to play one on blogs with the appropriate, but pointless, disclaimers.

In fact, Ms. COulter's phrasing does not "resemble" that used by others, it IS that WRITTEN by others.

It's not a matter of (repeated) chance; it's a matter of (repeated) theft.

Like I said, you're no expert.

So you go to all the trouble to personally attack me, without providing one shred of evidence to support your position.

Have you actually read the examples? Some seem pretty weak:

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001070.php

Example 1: "As New Hampshire attorney general in 1977, Souter opposed the repeal of an 1848 state law that made abortion a crime even though Roe v. Wade had made it irrelevant, predicting that if the law were repealed, New Hampshire 'would become the abortion mill of the United States.'"

Alleged Source: "In 1977, Souter as state attorney general spoke out against a proposed repeal of an 1848 state law that made abortion a crime -- even though the measure had been largely invalidated by the Supreme Court in Roe. vs. Wade… 'Quite apart from the fact that I don't think unlimited abortions ought to be allowed . . . I presume we would become the abortion mill of the United States[.]'" ("Liberals Leery as New Clues Surface on Souters Views," Los Angeles Times, Sept. 9, 1990)
(Identified by John Barrie/New York Post)

Example 2: "He filed a brief arguing that the state should not have to pay for poor women to have abortions — or, as the brief called it, "the killing of unborn children" and the "destruction of fetuses." At this point the only people more opposed to abortion than Souter were still in vitro."

Alleged Source: "The year before, Souter had filed a legal brief arguing that the state should not have to pay for abortions for poor women. Abortion was referred to as "the killing of unborn children" and the "destruction of fetuses."" An assistant attorney general has said that he, not Souter, wrote the brief. (Ibid)
(Identified by John Barrie/New York Post)

Example 3: "Also as state attorney general, Souter defended the governor's practice of lowering the flag to half-staff on Good Friday, arguing that "lowering of the flag to commemorate the death of Christ no more establishes a religious position on the part of the state or promotes a religion than the lowering of the flag for the death of Hubert Humphrey promotes the cause of the Democratic Party in New Hampshire."

Alleged Source: "In 1978, Gov. Meldrim Thomson exhorted state employees to 'reverently observe Good Friday' and ordered flags flown at half staff to 'memorialize the death of Christ on the Cross.' A federal judge struck down the order as a violation of the First Amendment's ban on an 'establishment of religion.' Souter appealed, arguing that Jesus Christ is a 'historical' figure. 'The lowering of the flag to commemorate the death of Christ no more establishes a religious position on the part of the state or promotes a religion than the lowering of the flag for the death of Humbert Humphrey promotes the cause of the Democratic Party in New Hampshire,' Souter wrote." (Ibid)
(Identified by John Barrie/New York Post)

Example 4: "Souter vowed in a newspaper interview to 'do everything we can to uphold the law' allowing public school children to recite the Lord's Prayer every day."

Alleged Source: "In 1975, the New Hampshire Legislature gave elementary schools the authority to recite 'the traditional Lord's Prayer' each day, despite earlier Supreme Court decisions barring such activity. In a newspaper interview, Souter promised to 'do everything we can to uphold the law,' but a federal judge struck it down as 'patently and obviously unconstitutional.'" (Ibid)
(Identified by John Barrie/New York Post)

It goes on, but you get the point.

Can you give ONE example where "phrasing does not "resemble" that used by others, it IS that WRITTEN by others."?

Can you give ONE example where "phrasing does not "resemble" that used by others, it IS that WRITTEN by others."?

yeah...nearly every other example that you didn't mention such as this one:

Example 3, Page 95: “As the president of the Mississippi Baptist Convention, Pickering presided over a meeting where the convention adopted a resolution calling for legislation to outlaw abortion.”

Alleged Source: "As the president of the Mississippi Baptist Convention, Judge Pickering presided over a 1984 meeting where the convention adopted a resolution calling for legislation to outlaw abortion." ("About Planned Parenthood,")

Or how about the list I found:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/In_new_book_Coulter_cribs_stem_0614.html

Guys, C'mon, getting all worked up over samples of Ann Coulter's writing is as productive as getting worked up over any of the lame issues Congress debates on a regular basis to shift attention away from discussing real issues.

Ann Coutler isn't worth anyone's time, yours or mine.

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